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My Elderette is attempting to change the subject again

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we were in the middle of discussing their use of god's personal name, and miss k was not able to find one place in the bible, where jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the ot).

we had started out by talking about jesus being "the way, the truth and the life.

" then she stated that one of the purposes of jesus' coming to earth, was "to make god's name known.

Faithful Witness

I am taking all of your warnings very seriously. I know that this is war, and that Miss K does NOT come in peace. I will not be overconfident in dealing with Miss K and her JW wiles.

She has left out an important step in the process, well actually TWO steps, and I don't think she knows that I have noticed:

She never prays with me, and has not yet talked about prayer at all.
She is not love-bombing... she is not even like-bombing. She has not bothered to learn the names of my children yet, even though they greet her every time she visits. I find this slightly out of the ordinary, since I know the names of her grandchildren, and ask about them each time. All of our small talk is about her and her family. (This is fine with me! I would prefer to keep it academic. I have no intention of investing my emotions in a conditional friendship. She is more of a psychology experiment).
(She is also a very poor listener, and only listens in order to pick up cues to use to change subjects or turn questions back at me, in an attempt to make me look ignorant or unprepared).

To be honest, there is a small voice that keeps telling me that she might actually be reading these posts! HAHA... I have no evidence of course, but just a nervous feeling every time I relay my experiences with her. She would recognize the dog, as both she and Miss W cower in fear at our barking German Shepherd.

I'm learning a lot about JW behavior and thought from talking with her. She has come right out and admitted that "you are different," and 'YOU know what we believe," and "Your situation is different than most... you have family in the organization... you are smart..." etc. I guess that might be her way of giving me attention and love, but it never sounds like sincere praise or recognition... more like fear or suspicion. During each of our last 2 sessions, I found a nerve and did manage to ruffle her feathers quite a bit.

I've learned what behavior and statements she will say, to stop herself from thinking, and try to get me to stop along with her. She is a very interesting character, and I have to admit that I love drama and human emotions. As I continue talking with her, I learn so much about how her thought process works.

Miss K has no intention of actually listening to anything I have to say, and she really does not care about my sincere questions. I'm not kidding myself here... I realize I do NOT have the power to reach her through that thick wall the Watchtower has built in her mind. She does not have ears to hear, or eyes to see the truth about her "Truth."

The questions and topics we discuss, can hopefully be relayed to my parents. My father will be delighted, when I go to him and start asking him "Bible" quesions, and telling him what Miss K said. Since he is a man, he is above her, right?? (hahaha)... I know he relies heavily on that little brown "Reasoning" book for his answers. Miss K goes beyond that, so I can help him possibly see that thought beyond the printed material is going to be essential, if he wants to be a "good Jehovah's Witness."

My dad has made the statement 3 times (in one visit to my house, when he was talking about the new JW app), "I don't know... they are smarter than me!" Now that I am "back" as a bible student, I will have more leeway again in talking to him about these important issues. It will be interesting to see how this approach works with him.

I am looking forward (with some trepidation) to my meeting with Miss K today, as it always makes for interesting conversation with my husband. My children are not sitting at the table with us (BORRRRING!), but they do see and are fully aware of what is happening. There is no way they will ever fall for the WT bull... We will laugh and talk about the JW statements together. My 7 year old daughter and 6 year old son, are both highly intelligent and have developed some good critical thinking skills.

I look forward to telling Miss K that I will be playing the part of the "kindergartener" during this bible study. I have so many questions, beyond what that little book tells me I'm supposed to ask...

HAVE you ever noticed the way children ask questions? Many start asking as soon as they learn to speak. With wide, eager eyes, they look up at you and ask such things as: Why is the sky blue? What are the stars made of? Who taught the birds to sing? You may try hard to answer, but it is not always easy. Even your best answer may lead to yet another question: Why?

2 Children are not the only ones who ask questions. As we grow up, we keep asking. We do this in order to find our way, to learn of dangers that we need to avoid, or to satisfy our curiosity. But many people seem to stop asking questions, especially the most important ones. At least, they stop searching for the answers.

3. Why do many stop trying to find answers to the questions that matter most?

3 Think about the question on the cover of this book, the questions raised in the preface, or those at the beginning of this chapter. These are some of the most important questions you can ask. Yet, many people have given up trying to find the answers. Why? Does the Bible have the answers? Some feel that its answers are too hard to understand. Others worry that asking questions could lead to shame or embarrassment. And some decide that such questions are best left to religious leaders and teachers. What about you?

4, 5. What are some of the most important questions we can ask in life, and why should we seek the answers?

4 Very likely you are interested in getting answers to life’s big questions. No doubt you sometimes wonder: ‘What is the purpose of life? Is this life all there is? What is God really like?’ It is good to ask such questions, and it is important that you do not give up until you find satisfying, reliable answers. The famous teacher Jesus Christ said: “Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you.”—Matthew 7:7.

5 If you “keep on seeking” for answers to the important questions, you will find that the search can be very rewarding. (Proverbs 2:1-5) Despite what other people may have told you, there are answers, and you can find them—in the Bible. The answers are not too hard to understand. Better yet, they bring hope and joy. And they can help you to live a satisfying life right now. To begin, let us consider a question that has troubled many people.

The question that is really plaguing me most today...

WHY DO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES STOP ASKING QUESTIONS? Why did you stop asking questions?

Paragraph 5 says you can find the answers in the Bible. What do we need this book for?

Who wrote this book? How do we know it is true?

Was it written by religious leaders? Who do we get our answers from? What do they mean in paragraph 3? Are we supposed to rely on religious leaders, or the Bible?

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My Elderette is attempting to change the subject again

by Faithful Witness in

we were in the middle of discussing their use of god's personal name, and miss k was not able to find one place in the bible, where jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the ot).

we had started out by talking about jesus being "the way, the truth and the life.

" then she stated that one of the purposes of jesus' coming to earth, was "to make god's name known.

Faithful Witness

I appreciate all your comments and concerns. I am learning a lot from my meetings with Miss K and Miss W.

I am going to use the paragraphs on pages 8 & 9, to show Miss K my reasononing for asking so many questions. If she can't follow through on answering any questions, then this book study will not last long. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/what-is-the-truth-about-god/

HAVE you ever noticed the way children ask questions? Many start asking as soon as they learn to speak. With wide, eager eyes, they look up at you and ask such things as:

#1 Wouldn't it be better to teach people the proper name for God, than to continue to use the erroneous pronunciation "Jehovah" even though it is more familiar?

What good is it to pass on a false name, simply because it has come down through years of tradition?

Shouldn't we be more interested in accuracy, than in tradition? (Matthew 7:13 " Thus you make the word of God invalid by your tradition that you have handed down. + And you do many things like this.”)

#2 If it is so important to continually use God's name in Hebrew, then why did Jesus only address Him as "Father?"

And why did He teach His disciples to address Him as "Father?"

I have more questions than most people do... and I gladly accept their label of me as a kindergartener. My son is a kindergartener, and his questions are quite astounding at times! I won't stop asking questions.

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Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Sunday

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a world without satan (revelation 20:2,3,7,10).

romans 12- joy in the kingdom hope.

the spirit.. demonstration: family worship.

Faithful Witness

My mom made the comment that she thought it was odd how much emphasis they put on inviting the public to the Memorial. She said, "If you were going to visit the KH, that would be the STRANGEST time to see what it was like... How confusing!"

I really hope I get to talk to my parents before they go sit through this nonsense in Detroit. Ugh...

Do people actually get excited to go to these things?

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My Elderette is attempting to change the subject again

by Faithful Witness in

we were in the middle of discussing their use of god's personal name, and miss k was not able to find one place in the bible, where jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the ot).

we had started out by talking about jesus being "the way, the truth and the life.

" then she stated that one of the purposes of jesus' coming to earth, was "to make god's name known.

Faithful Witness

Along with many of the suggestions I have found here on JWN. I really appreciate all the insight. This forum is awesome!

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My Elderette is attempting to change the subject again

by Faithful Witness in

we were in the middle of discussing their use of god's personal name, and miss k was not able to find one place in the bible, where jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the ot).

we had started out by talking about jesus being "the way, the truth and the life.

" then she stated that one of the purposes of jesus' coming to earth, was "to make god's name known.

Faithful Witness

We were in the middle of discussing their use of God's personal name, and Miss K was not able to find one place in the Bible, where Jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the OT).

We had started out by talking about Jesus being "the way, the truth and the life." Then she stated that one of the purposes of Jesus' coming to earth, was "to make God's name known." She showed me several verses to try to prove that, yet not one where it was recorded that he ever actually called him by a personal name. There was not one verse, where Jesus instructed them to call God by a personal name. If he had done that, maybe he could have told us how to pronounce it properly... ??

She admitted that they were mispronouncing it, but then went on to say that Jesus was a mispronunciation also... "So should we remove Jesus' name from the Bible also?" (I suggested we just throw the whole thing out the window, as she had used a similar reasoning to defend the NWT as the true translation, over the KJV... "Is that version of the Bible accurate???") It seems that her way of desperately trying to prove that what she says is true, is to deflect the question and question what someone else says. That is not very convincing (this time... been there already). "Question all religious teachings... look, they are false!" (but don't you dare question ours... we have the only TRUTH!)

Then we began reading the appendix to their new NWT, where it explains why they decided to add Jehovah to the Greek scriptures.

Some claims that she made last week:

Because of JW's, the churches of today are now aware of God's name. They are using it more, and apparently she has seen it up on the wall at one church. (She went for a wedding or funeral, and saw a mural with the different names for God).
Jesus is reigning on his heavenly throne NOW, but will eventually be giving the authority back to his father. (Therefore, we need to keep Jehovah above Jesus).
(the obvious and overused JW reasoning) If you want to know someone, you need to know their name! (Good grief, really? What will happen if I start calling my dad by his first name? Will I feel closer to him?)

We were interrupted by a phone call from my husband, that he was ready to be picked up from work.

She really wanted me to agree to use the Bible Teach book again. I told her I have already studied that whole book, but she thinks she can help me see it from a new perspective. I told her I would think about it, and was going to think about whether I was even going to continue studying with her. (I told her about a friend who had warned me about letting "heretics" into my home).

----- fast forward ----- I skipped a week, and my mom came for a visit instead. Miss K sent me a text, telling me she was "thinking of me." -----

I replied on Friday, and told her we could meet this week Friday. It took her a couple of days, but she just sent me a text yesterday (Tuesday). She is planning to come this week, and has suggested that we discuss Matthew 13:24-30 (the parable of the wheat and the weeds). Another leap!

Not sure what thought process has made her jump from the "fact" that Jesus told his disciples to make God's name known to every corner of the earth, to this particular parable. I have studied that WT article (July 15, 2013). I even attended that meeting with my husband, so we could see how people actually reacted when they were told that their beliefs had changed. Even though I am interested in this story, and how the JW's have interpreted it incorrectly (again), I am not really willing to move on to the next subject until we finish what we were just talking about.

I think she just wants to keep me guessing, and begin another round of her BIBLE RACE game. I'm on to that one, and I'm not going to waste 30 minutes hopping around between unrelated verses she has cherry-picked ahead of time. She begins each session with small talk, and then launches into her presentation. We go from verse to verse to verse, until she finally stops and asks me a question.

Since I never quite know what point she is driving at, it makes me look ignorant, and gives her an excuse to start the "Miss K Show," where she begins a long explanation of some topic of her choice. I've learned that I must interrupt this part, as her explanation is full of holes. We talk about those holes, and then she ends with, "Well, I just know this is the truth. I wouldn't be here, if I wasn't convinced of that."

This is a very poor demonstration of how you should "study" the Bible!

It has become apparent that this is her way of trying to "prove" that JW's get their beliefs from the bible.

Instead, she is revealing her method of "teaching" as a control and manipulation tactic.

She wants to appear as though her "knowledge" is superior to mine, because she has listed a bunch of verses on a piece of paper, and has now successfully made me follow her on her little adventure of skipping through the truth. NO MORE Bible races!

I am going to text her back, and let her know that I am willing to take another look at the Bible Teach book. At least I will know what she is planning to present next, and can be prepared with my own questions ahead of time.

I'm going to use some ideas from Wilbur Lingle's commentary. https://archive.org/details/ResponseToWhatDoesTheBibleReallyTeach

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Don't You Think It's Odd That "Jehovah" Was Invented By A Catholic Monk?...

by minimus in

jw
friends

and that jehovah's witnesses are proud to use that name?.

Faithful Witness

Thank you for that explanation, Snare! I am not diving into a bunch of history, as I know my dear Miss K will not seriously consider any actual facts that I present about the name they use for God the Father.

She has been unable to show any record of where Jesus actually spoke the name out loud, yet so proudly claims that Jesus came to make God's name known. She is an intelligent woman, but there are such obvious gaps in her reasoning. She just "KNOWS" it is the truth, so she will keep defending it, even to the point of nonsense and false conclusions.

Her gaps in the truth, are starting to make a hole. Last time she was at my table, she asked me directly, "Have I come here and told you anything that wasn't true from the Bible?"

I gave her 3 examples, since each time she comes, she fails to prove her claims.

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Don't You Think It's Odd That "Jehovah" Was Invented By A Catholic Monk?...

by minimus in

jw
friends

and that jehovah's witnesses are proud to use that name?.

Faithful Witness

I have not done my homework on the origin of the pronunciation "Jehovah." It never quite made sense to me, that they wanted to call the Father by his personal name. I always felt very weird using it.

I have never called my dad by his first name, even though I've always known it! I can only imagine his response... especially in light of the way he withdrew his affection, when I stopped my bible study. Now, he is love-bombing in his own sort of desperate and obvious way. I wonder what he would say, if I told him I wanted to get closer to him, and have decided to start calling him "Don."

My elderette is attempting another subject change this week, and I would like to finish our discussion we started last week, regarding the use of the name Jehovah. Who came up with that pronunciation? Where can I find reliable documentation of that fact? Thanks for starting this thread.

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My JW Mom came for an impromptu visit yesterday. It went great! :)

by Faithful Witness in

it is so nice to start actually believing that my mom wants to have a relationship with me and my kids again.

there was awhile, where it was in question, and she wasn't sure if she was supposed to associate with us or not.

i think the stand that my sister has taken against me, is actually causing my mom to start doubting whether it is a good idea to follow this cruel example of "love" as defined by the watchtower.

Faithful Witness

It is so nice to start actually believing that my mom wants to have a relationship with me and my kids again. There was awhile, where it was in question, and she wasn't sure if she was supposed to associate with us or not. I think the stand that my sister has taken against me, is actually causing my mom to start doubting whether it is a good idea to follow this cruel example of "love" as defined by the Watchtower.

We got a new trampoline for the kids, and watched them jump on it and do tricks. My parents were the first in our town, back in 1977, to get a trampoline. I could tell that she was pleased by this choice, as she had seen the value of this investment for herself. (20 years, no injuries... no safety net, just safe rules and proper play). We enjoyed talking about memories from those days.

My mom asked me if the "Witnesses" have been back. I told her they had, and that I've had some very in depth discussions with them. I am pleased that my elderette, Miss K, is willing to address my concerns and questions. It is nice to have someone brave enough to stop and explain her beliefs. I told her, "She is very good, and I am learning a lot from her. I am learning how they..." (then I had to think how to phrase it nicely haha)

My mom said, "How they what...?" (at this time, she is doing a painting craft with my kids)

"How they use certain techniques to make their point, and try to present their claims as facts." (silence from Mom, as she listened... I still have to learn the best way to relay these conversations to my mom, and try to guage when I am supposed to stop talking.)

"For example, I am learning how the bible study will go, if we follow her plan. She doesn't start out with any opening statement or claim, or even tell me the point she is trying to make. Instead, we open our bibles and start having bible races, to see who can find verses she wants to read. She likes to show me 10-15 verses, located all throughout the bible. They don't always even seem related... like 2 weeks agp, she showed me about 15 verses that contained the word 'truth.' I kept waiting for her to get to the point. Then she will stop, and ask me a question I can't answer. She doesn't seem to follow a logical process to reach conclusions."

My mom is still just listening, and I don't know when to stop, and keep talking... (I see where I need to improve here, LOL) "So I asked her, 'What is the truth? I know JW's hold that word as if it were their greatest treasure.' Miss K quickly responded with, 'The Bible is the truth,' to which I replied, 'OK, what does the Bible say?' She just looked at me, so I asked her what was the message from the Bible. She said something about rectifying the Kingdom and vindictating Jehovah. I started to write it down, but she stopped me and said, 'You won't find that written down anywhere! Don't quote me on that!'"

My mom sort of clicked her tongue in disapproval. I said, "I noticed that she didn't mention Jesus at all, so I told her, 'Jesus is the truth! The truth, the way and the life...' The name above all names! Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord."

My mom said, "Yeah... and...?" as if that was what she believed and what the JW's taught.

So I said, "Why do Jehovah's Witnesses teach that you have to go through an organization to get to Jesus, when he told us to come to him directly? Why do they go through men to get to Christ?"

She said, "That is a good question..."

Then I talked to her about the name, and how I was asking Miss K why they insist on using the personal name of God, even to the point of inserting into the scriptures where it did not appear. I told her how Miss K said, it was only when they were quoting the OT, but that they also admitted that there were several other times, where they had come to the conclusion that it should have been there. I told her I had some real concerns, and that it seemed like they were twisting the scriptures.

"Why do they insist on calling God by his personal name, when Jesus Christ never said it?"

My mom said, "Right, Jesus called him Father." (!!!)

I told her how Miss K showed me some scriptures, where Jesus said he had come to make known his father's name, sanctify his name. I said, "But nowhere is it recorded, when Jesus told us to CALL God by his personal name. If it had been such an important instruction, then why isn't it recorded anywhere in the gospels?"

Mom said, "That's a good point..."

I said, "Jesus demonstrated how to pray, in the Lord's Prayer... 'Our Father, who art in heaven...' If anywhere he was going to tell us how to call on God, don't you think he would have said the name in that example prayer? Do you think he would have told us how to pronounce it?"

"Jehovah's Witnesses are so fixated on vindicating Jehovah's name... but Jesus didn't even call him that. What makes them think that they should be calling him that? If you go beyond what Jesus taught, then you are actually following the instructions of men. Are they following Christ's example, or the instructions of men?" My mom didn't say anything, but I think she got the piont. She looked confused.

Then I said, "Christians follow Christ. I asked her if they were 'Jehovah-ans.' I probably shouldn't have said that, because I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but after investigating the bible, and how they came to the conclusion that they should add Jehovah to the New Testament, it really didn't make sense."

"Miss K keeps asking me if she has come and taught me anything that WASN'T true from the Bible, yet she is asking me to believe and follow things that are not taught in the bible."

So, I gave her some things to ponder, and she is not running scared... She is actually considering coming back NEXT weekend already, and said that she might have Dad come with her. I'm not sure if this is something he asked her to arrange or what. She mentioned how he likes to do electrical projects, and sort of offered his handyman services to me. I told her we did have a couple of little things we needed help with, and it would be great to see Dad.

After the way my dad bear-hugged me a couple of weeks ago at my niece's recital, I think he is doing a love-bomb attempt. Even though my mom claims she "doesn't want to get involved," she has clearly passed along the message that I am doing a bible study again. I suspect that Dad wants to prove that JW's are helpful, thoughtful and loving.

It would be great to see my dad, and I do hope they will both come over next week! I will be glad to have a chance to talk with them both before the International Convention in Detroit. I might address one or two of the topics listed on the program, since they seem to have put their paranoia about Detroit city on the shelf for now.

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Did I say too much, and scare away my elderette? What has happened to Miss K?

by Faithful Witness in

i have had 3 sessions of what is most likely being tracked as a "bible study" with an elderette who is from the kh we stopped attending about 3-4 years ago.. after last week's visit and bible verse study, she asked me if she should return.

i had expressed concerns that she was a heretic, and i had a friend who had warned me not to let her into my house.

i told her i had to think about whether i wanted to study the bible teach book with her.

Faithful Witness

DATA-DOG: I would rather be a kindergartener JW, than to have any kind of diploma or degree! Miss W threw me, when she said that, but I did consider the source. In order to be a full-fledged witness of Jehovah, you have to literally lose your mind. Hers has been gone for so long. I feel bad for her, and watching her struggle to justify her beliefs and behavior makes me sad and angry. (See my comment to dozy below for the context).

Luke 18:16-17 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little childrento come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

villagegirl: I have a Christian friend who is warning me not to let these women into my home. I told Miss K about my friend, and how I am unsure whether I should be listening to her interpretations of the scriptures, and showed her some scriptures that my friend had used to warn me about her.

This has actually been a great tool for me to use... "My friend said..." It has given me a little more leeway, in what kinds of comments I can make, when the opinion is coming from an outsider.

Of course, instead of answering the concern raised by my friend, Miss K will start attacking my friend. It is an interesting tactic, but I just tell her, "I'm not asking you what you think of my friend, but when she showed me this passage in the bible, it raised some concerns for me..."

It is interesting the way she jumped right onto, "Oh, and what church is your friend affiliated with?"

My friend and her husband are starting a discipleship program, and I am sort of her student. We also study the bible together, and I ask the questions from the JW's, and get good points or answers to give back to Miss K.

dozy: Miss K does deserve some props. She is good, and she DOES have a different approach (and she knows it). She has also acknowledged the fact that I am in a unique position. My family has joined, and I have studied before. "You know what Jehovah's Witnesses believe. I think it's just a matter of your coming to the conclusion that we are teaching the truth. It doesn't sound like you are quite there yet." (this is where Miss W interjected with her comment, "That's because you are just a kindergartener. It will take you awhile to get to first grade, then second grade..." Miss W then went on to proudly proclaim her quick progress into the truth, and how she had wanted to be baptized after 3 months of study. This was in 1973.)

When Miss K says, "It seems like there are some flags being raised in your mind..." it is all I can do, to stop myself from shaking her and telling her to "WAKE UP! You are in a cult! Get out of her, you people! Can't you see the writing all over the Tower wall??" I really need a good response to this question.

When I mentioned this comment last week, Miss K gasped. "I did NOT call you a kindergartener!" and then later she made sure to compliment me on my intelligence. LOL. I do not claim higher intelligence, but I do have an analytical mind.

new hope: I hope Miss K is learning more than sales techniques from me. Maybe she will actually do some research, and find some facts that will cause her to start thinking also. If we start researching "together," who knows what she might learn? I sure am learning a lot about human behavior, and control techniques from her!

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Yesterday turned out to be the most glorious day! My JW mother texted me, and came for an impromptu visit with us. We did crafts, watched the kids on our new trampoline, played games and enjoyed each other's company. It was a great time, and the kids were so glad to have this nice day with Grandma.

My mom asked me if "the Witnesses" have been back, and I told her that I'm now considered a bible student. She seems pleased with this news, and is interested, when I tell her some of the things that Miss K is saying to me. I told her that Miss K and Miss W are very nice, and that it is interesting to hear some of the comments and statements that they make, and proceed to call it the "Truth." I'm going to start a different thread about my mom's visit.

Later in the evening, when I checked my phone, I saw that I had a text from Miss K after all. She had sent me a text, right about at the time of our usual appointment. I had told my mom that I was questioning whether I should continue letting them into the house, or just read the bible and follow the instructions from Jesus himself. I didn't understand why they had to go through an organization to get to Christ. My mom said, "That is a good question."

Since we are going on a trip in 2 weeks, I think I will agree to meet with Miss K next week Friday. If she is on the same schedule as my parents, she will be at the International Convention in Detroit the following weekend.

I can, but I don't need to put her off for a month. I think I'd also rather deal with her before the convention, then after she gets a huge recharge of her cult batteries.

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Did I say too much, and scare away my elderette? What has happened to Miss K?

by Faithful Witness in

i have had 3 sessions of what is most likely being tracked as a "bible study" with an elderette who is from the kh we stopped attending about 3-4 years ago.. after last week's visit and bible verse study, she asked me if she should return.

i had expressed concerns that she was a heretic, and i had a friend who had warned me not to let her into my house.

i told her i had to think about whether i wanted to study the bible teach book with her.

Faithful Witness

I have had 3 sessions of what is most likely being tracked as a "Bible Study" with an elderette who is from the KH we stopped attending about 3-4 years ago.

After last week's visit and bible verse study, she asked me if she should return. I had expressed concerns that she was a heretic, and I had a friend who had warned me not to let her into my house. I told her I had to think about whether I wanted to study the Bible Teach book with her. She promised to get back to me in a few days, about whether we would have another appointment. We have been meeting on Fridays, so today would be our usual time. I have not heard from her yet.

I'm wondering if she returned to the KH and/or her elder husband, with my story of the end of our previous bible study. We studied with one of the head honcho elders (frequently read the Watchtower study article from the chair on stage) at the KH. Miss K's husband is also one of the main players (hall monitor) there.

Miss K keeps hinting, and sort of pressing me for what my real concerns are, regarding the JW's. She made the comment at least twice, about how "you seem to have some flags coming up in your mind, and I'm not sure what they are..."

I confided in her how saddened and shocked my husband and I were, when we tried asking questions of our teacher (after a revealing interview we found, featuring ex-JW's on an old TV show). His reaction to our sincere concerns, knocked us right off the JW wagon to "The Truth." I did start opening up to her, and my response included the unaddressed question, "Just because you are no longer a Jehovah's Witness, does that mean everything you say is a lie?"

I did not explain or tell her any of the information that we had. I did not ask her to defend any apostate information.

I'm wondering why she has not called or texted me yet. I am planning to tell her that we can resume after we get back from our vacation in a few weeks. Until then, I am going to focus my attention on my own home and family.

She told me, "It sounds like some trust has been violated. Maybe I can help you, or maybe I have some thoughts or comments that will help you see things from a fresh perspective." and "You are a woman of above-average intelligence. I enjoy the opportunity to defend the truth. (after I pointed out, that they had called me a "kindergartener" the week before)"

I told her I was appreciative to find a JW that was willing to answer my questions. "I am taking your advice. I have questions about the JW's, so I am asking a JW."

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What has happened to Miss K? Maybe she has had a busy week, and simply forgot to check in with me.

How likely is it, that she went back to her husband, and he told her not to call on me again?